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Roger Hilsman Personal Papers
RHPP-003-010
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Roger Hilsman Personal Papers
RHPP-003-009
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. National Security Files
JFKNSF-316-010
This folder contains telegrams, memoranda, and summaries of meetings regarding United States policy towards Vietnam, the government of President Ngo Dinh Diem, and the influence of Ngo Dinh Nhu, advisor to President Diem. Of note is a draft of a letter from President John F. Kennedy to President Diem. Also included in this folder is a memorandum by Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman discussing U.S. objectives in Vietnam, including victory against the Viet Cong and removal of Nhu and his wife, Madame Nhu, from the country; and a memorandum by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) on the current situation in South Vietnam.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-121-003
Sound recording of a meeting on Indonesia held on November 19, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy, United States Ambassador to Indonesia Howard Jones, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman, and National Security Council (NSC) Member Michael Forrestal. They discuss President of Indonesia Ahmed Sukarno and other matters concerning Indonesia, specifically a proposed visit to Indonesia by President Kennedy in 1964 or 1965; the upcoming visit to Washington, D.C., by General Nasution of Indonesia; PL480 rice shipments; and the Lockheed contract to service Hercules Aircraft. Five segments of the recording totaling 2 minutes and 57 seconds have been removed in accordance with Section 3.4 (b) (1), (3) of Executive Order 13526. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 121/A57, which contains additional sound recording(s) preceding and following this one. See Related Records to access Tape 121/A57 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-119-003
Sound recording of a meeting about Vietnam held on November 2, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy, Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) John McCone, Under Secretary of State W. Averell Harriman, and Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman. Assistant Secretary Hilsman provides a briefing on Vietnam covering whether or not United States Ambassador to South Vietnam Henry Cabot Lodge should return to the United States for a briefing, the restoration of constitutional government in Vietnam, and information on the deaths of President of South Vietnam Ngo Dinh Diem and Ngo Dinh Nhu. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 119/A55, which contains additional sound recording(s) preceding and following this one. See Related Records to access Tape 119/A55 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-119-001
Sound recording of a meeting about Vietnam held on November 2, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, Military Advisor to the President General Maxwell Taylor, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs W. Averell Harriman, and Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman. Topics include an assessment of the coup in Vietnam, the issue of recognition of the new regime, reports of deaths of President of South Vietnam Ngo Dinh Diem and Ngo Dinh Nhu, and a review of the developments leading to coup. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 119/A55, which contains additional sound recording(s) following this one. See Related Records to access Tape 119/A55 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-115-001
Sound recording of a meeting on Indonesia and Malaysia held on October 9, 1963 between President John F. Kennedy, Under Secretary of State George Ball, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs W. Averell Harriman, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman, Director of Covert Operations for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Richard Helms, Secretary of the Navy Paul Nitze, Senior Member of the National Security Council (NSC) Michael Forrestal, Hugh Tovar, Director of the Office of Southwest Pacific Affairs for the Department of State's Bureau of Far Eastern Affairs James Bell, and Director of the Far East Region for the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs Rear Admiral Luther C. Heinz. The President's schedule also lists "General Turnadge." After the Federation of Malaysia was formed on September 16, 1963, there were protests across Indonesia; many of the protesters felt as if the formation of Malaysia was another form of colonialism. President Kennedy and his staff discuss the political and military situation in Indonesia, the ramifications in the Philippines and in Malaysia, the United Nations, and ANZUS (The Australia, New Zealand, United States Security Treaty) obligations. Six segments of the recording totaling 3 minutes and 13 seconds have been removed in accordance with Section 3.4 (b) (1), (3) of Executive Order 13526. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 115/A51, which contains additional sound recording(s) following this one. See Related Records to access Tape 115/A51 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-110-002
Sound recording of a meeting about Vietnam held on September 11, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy, Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) General Maxwell Taylor, Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) John McCone, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs W. Averell Harriman, Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell Gilpatric, Director of the United States Information Agency (USIA) Edward R. Murrow, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman, National Security Council (NSC) member Michael Forrestal, Specialist on Counterinsurgency for the JCS General Victor Krulak, Executive Secretary of the NSC Bromley Smith, Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, Assistant Secretary of State for Public Affairs Robert Manning, and Assistant Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) Seymour Janow. The subject matter discussed in this meeting is similar to that of the previous day's (September 10, 1963) meeting with President Kennedy on Vietnam. Participants rehash much of what was discussed at that meeting and debate the steps to take. Secretary McNamara comments that he disagrees with United States Ambassador to South Vietnam Henry Cabot Lodge on a plan of action; Secretary Rusk and Director McCone agree with Secretary McNamara on this point. Two segments of the recording totaling 1 minute and 13 seconds have been removed in accordance with Section 3.4 (b) (1), (3) of Executive Order 13526. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 110, which contains additional sound recording(s) preceding and following this one. See Related Records to access Tape 110 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-109-004
Sound recording of a meeting about Vietnam held on September 10, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy; former United States Ambassador to Vietnam Frederick Nolting; Defense Secretary Robert S. McNamara; Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) General Maxwell D. Taylor; Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) John McCone; Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs W. Averell Harriman; Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell Gilpatric; Director of the United States Information Agency (USIA) Edward R. Murrow; Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman; Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy; National Security Council (NSC) member Michael Forrestal; Specialist on Counterinsurgency for the JCS General Victor Krulak; Executive Secretary of the NSC Bromley Smith; Foreign Service Officer Joseph Mendenhall; Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman; Military Aide to the President General Chester Clifton; Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy; USIA Official-Public Affairs Officer at the United States Embassy in Saigon, South Vietnam, John Mecklin; Director of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) David Bell; and Assistant Director for Rural Affairs, Operations Mission in Vietnam Rufus Phillips. This meeting is essentially the platform through which General Krulak and Foreign Service Officer Mendenhall report to President John F. Kennedy on their fact-finding mission to South Vietnam in September 1963. General Krulak and Mendenhall's four-day trip was intended to gain an overview of the military and civilian views of the country. General Krulak’s view, taken from his visits with military leaders, is generally optimistic on the progress of the war. Mendenhall presents the opposite view, one of widespread military and social discontent. After the two men present their views, President Kennedy quips, “You both went to the same country?” In this rather long and involved meeting, they delve into divergent views and possible steps to take. Responding to a question from former Ambassador Frederick Nolting, State Department official Rufus Phillips comments, “This was not a military war, but a political war.” Four segments of the recording totaling 3 minutes and 46 seconds have been removed in accordance with Section 3.4 (b) (1), (3) of Executive Order 13526. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 109, which contains additional sound recording(s) preceding this one. See Related Records to access Tape 109 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-108-004
Sound recording of a meeting held on September 3, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy, former United States Ambassador to Vietnam Frederick Nolting, Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara, Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillon, Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) General Marshall Carter, Director of the CIA John McCone, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Maxwell Taylor, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs W. Averell Harriman, Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell Gilpatric, Specialist on Counterinsurgency for the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Victor Krulak, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman, Director of the CIA's Far Eastern Division William Colby, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, Military Aide to the President General Chester Clifton, National Security Council member Michael Forrestal, and Executive Secretary of the National Security Council Bromley Smith. This meeting is the continued discussion between President Kennedy and a wide range of Department of State, Department of Defense, CIA, and White House advisors on the volatile situation in South Vietnam. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 108, which contains additional sound recording(s) preceding this one. See Related Records to access Tape 108 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-108-003
Sound recording of a meeting held on August 29, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy, former United States Ambassador to Vietnam Frederick Nolting, Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara, Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillon, Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) General Marshall Carter, Director of the United States Information (USIA) Edward R. Murrow, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs W. Averell Harriman, Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell Gilpatric, Specialist on Counterinsurgency for the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) General Victor Krulak, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman, Deputy Director of the CIA for Plans Richard Helms, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, Military Aide to the President General Chester Clifton, National Security Council member Michael Forrestal, Executive Secretary of the National Security Council Bromley Smith. This meeting is a discussion between President Kennedy and a wide range of Department of State, Department of Defense, CIA, and White House advisors on the volatile situation in South Vietnam. Three segments of the recording totaling 1 minute and 44 seconds have been removed in accordance with Section 3.4 (b) (1), (3) of Executive Order 12958. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 108, which contains additional sound recording(s) preceding and following this one. See Related Records to access Tape 108 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-108-001
Sound recording of part of a meeting held on August 28, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy, former United States Ambassador to Vietnam Frederick Nolting, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Maxwell Taylor, Under Secretary of State George Ball, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs W. Averell Harriman, Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell Gilpatric, Director of the Central Intelligence Agency's (CIA) Far Eastern Division William Colby, Deputy Director of the CIA General Marshall Carter, Director of the United States Information Agency (USIA) Edward R. Murrow, Deputy CIA Director for Plans Richard Helms, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, National Security Council member Michael Forrestal, Specialist on Counterinsurgency for the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Victor Krulak, Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillon, Executive Secretary of the National Security Council Bromley Smith, and later in the meeting, Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson. The recording of this meeting begins on Tape 107. President Kennedy and a wide range of State Department, Defense Department, CIA, and White House advisors continue to discuss the volatile situation in South Vietnam. Three segments of the recording totaling 54 seconds have been removed in accordance with Section 3.4 (b) (1), (3) of Executive Order 12958. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 108, which contains additional sound recording(s) following this one. See Related Records to access Tape 108 in its entirety or the beginning of this recording on Tape 89.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-107-007
Sound recording of part of a meeting held on August 28, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy, former United States Ambassador to Vietnam Frederick Nolting, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Maxwell Taylor, Under Secretary of State George Ball, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs W. Averell Harriman, Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell Gilpatric, Director of the Central Intelligence Agency's (CIA) Far Eastern Division William Colby, Deputy Director of the CIA General Marshall Carter, Director of the United States Information Agency (USIA) Edward R. Murrow, Deputy CIA Director for Plans Richard Helms, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, National Security Council member Michael Forrestal, Specialist on Counterinsurgency for the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Victor Krulak, Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillon, Executive Secretary of the National Security Council Bromley Smith, and later in the meeting, Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson. This meeting is the continued discussion between President Kennedy and a wide range of State Department, Defense Department, CIA, and White House advisors concerning the volatile situation in South Vietnam. Two segments of the recording totaling 1 minute and 11 seconds have been removed in accordance with Section 3.4 (b) (1), (3) of Executive Order 12958. The recording of this meeting ends abruptly and continues on Tape 108. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 107, which contains additional sound recording(s) preceding this one. See Related Records to access Tape 107 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-107-005
Sound recording of a meeting held on August 27, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy, former United States Ambassador to Vietnam Frederick Nolting, Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Maxwell Taylor, Under Secretary of State George Ball, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs W. Averell Harriman, Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell Gilpatric, Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) General Marshall Carter, Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, Director of the United States Information Agency (USIA) Edward R. Murrow, Deputy CIA Director for Plans Richard Helms, Director of the CIA's Far Eastern Division William Colby, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, member of the National Security Council (NSC) Michael Forrestal, Specialist on Counterinsurgency for the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) General Victor Krulak, and Executive Secretary of the NSC Bromley Smith. This meeting on Vietnam is a follow-up to the meeting from the day before. President Kennedy asked Frederick Nolting, the recently replaced Ambassador to Vietnam, to attend this meeting in order to discuss his views on the Vietnam situation. One segment of the recording totaling 8 seconds has been removed in accordance with Section 3.4 (b) (1), (3) of Executive Order 12958. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 107, which contains additional sound recording(s) preceding and following this one. See Related Records to access Tape 107 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-107-004
Sound recording of a meeting held on August 26, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy, Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Maxwell Taylor, Under Secretary of State George Ball, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs W. Averell Harriman, Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell Gilpatric, Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Marshall Carter, Director of the CIA's Office of Special Operations (OSO) Richard Helms, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, National Security Council (NSC) member Michael Forrestal, and Specialist on Counterinsurgency for the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Victor Krulak. This meeting on Vietnam takes place the Monday following the now infamous Saturday telegram concerning a possible coup in Vietnam. The meeting is contentious at times between the Department of State and the Department of Defense/White House staff on what steps should be taken in Vietnam. Near the end of the meeting, President Kennedy changes the topic to foreign aid cuts requested by Congress and what can be done to sway opinions in the opposite direction. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 107, which contains additional sound recording(s) preceding and following this one. See Related Records to access Tape 107 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-102-005
Sound recording of a meeting held on July 31, 1963, at 4:30 p.m., between President John F. Kennedy, Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) John McCone, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman, Under Secretary of State W. Averell Harriman, CIA Deputy Director for Intelligence Ray Cline, Deputy Secretary of Defense William Bundy, Director of the United States Information Agency (USIA) Edward R. Murrow, and General Earle Wheeler. In this National Security Council (NSC) meeting they discuss Chinese Communists intentions. They cover a variety of issues such as: the Sino-Soviet dispute, the treaty banning atmospheric nuclear weapons tests, later known as the Partial Test Ban Treaty (PTBT) or the Limited Test Ban Treaty (LTBT), Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev’s remarks to Harriman, India, Korea, Laos, Indian Nehru, U.S. relations with India, Chinese troop movements, and Korean fighting. There was also a discussion on Southeast Asia, covering Laos, Vietnam, India, measures against communists, a draft statement concerning India and Korea and Chinese Communists. There are further discussions on India, covering the present position and defense situation, Taiwan, USIA coverage of the situation, and Buddhists throughout Southeast Asia. Four segments of the recording totaling 5 minutes and 34 seconds have been removed in accordance with Section 3.4 (b) (1), (3) of Executive Order 12958. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 102, which contains additional sound recording(s) preceding this one. See Related Records to access Tape 102 in its entirety.
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Papers of John F. Kennedy. Presidential Papers. President's Office Files.
JFKPOF-MTG-096-002
Sound recording of a meeting held on July 4, 1963, between President John F. Kennedy, Under Secretary of State George Ball, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs W. Averell Harriman, Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs McGeorge Bundy, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs Roger Hilsman, and member of the National Security Council Michael Forrestal. The main focus of this White House off-the-record meeting is the situation in Vietnam. The meeting takes place not long after a Buddhist monk burned himself to death to protest the relationship between the government of Vietnam and the Buddhists and amidst recent Buddhist demonstrations. The possibility of a coup in Vietnam and differing staff assessments of that possibility are also presented. Other topics are discussed near the end of the meeting, including Laos, Indonesia, Brazil, and Averell Harriman’s upcoming mission to Moscow concerning the treaty banning atmospheric nuclear weapons tests, later known as the Partial Test Ban Treaty (PTBT) or the Limited Test Ban Treaty (LTBT), and specific aspects of its negotiations. One segment of the recording totaling 35 seconds has been removed in accordance with the donor's deed of gift. Four segments of the recording totaling 41 seconds have been removed in accordance with Section 3.4 (b) (1), (3) of Executive Order 12958. This sound recording has been excerpted from Tape 96, which contains additional sound recording(s) preceding and following this one. See Related Records to access Tape 96 in its entirety.